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27 May 2012 @ 02:20 pm
EUROVISION  
Sweden won last night with 'Euphoria' by Loreen in the city of Baku in Azerbaijan. Leaving the mighty nation of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland second to last ahead of a dancy club hit from an Iranian-Norwegian. 

Do you think it's time we pulled out of this contest indefinitely? Not just us but when you look at nations like Slovakia, Italy or France who just get nowhere. The only favourites seem to be Eastern European, Eurasian, Israeli/Turkish or Scandinavian leaving us to the West as "just happy to be here" while shelling out the most money to fund it. 

The issue of who can afford to host it should not be an issue to who wins it because then they should not even take part and as if our country isn't anti-Europe enough as it is, I believe this competition exacerbates our pre-programmed xenophobia. The sad fact is that nations within Europe do not hate each other as much as they hate the UK and France and this competition just presents a platform upon which we bitterly feel we can never be European and will ever remain the left arm of the United States. 

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Mystemyste_uk on May 27th, 2012 03:11 pm (UTC)
To be honest I think the political voting theory doesn't hold a lot of weight.. it's more cultural voting, which is natural enough, countries with a shared or similar cultural history will have similar tastes in music. This is somewhat amplified by the fact that the eastern block is made up of so many small countries, rather than the fewer number of larger countries in the west of Europe.

Rather than pull out - I think it's high time we actually took the contest seriously again and submitted an entry that is actually decent. People aren't going to vote for a crap song, and it's reaching a bit to blame that on so called political voting. Unless you're going to claim that everyone in Europe really hates the Netherlands, for example, and that's why they failed to even qualify.

Edited to add: "The only favourites seem to be Eastern European, Eurasian, Israeli/Turkish or Scandinavian", and yet it was two Scandanavian countries that shared the bottom 3 places with us. I don't remember Germany ever being thought of as a super popular country in Europe, and yet they won 2 years ago, because they had a great song. Similarly, Sweden's entry this year was a well deserved winner, again, because it was a great song. (Based on the sampling of the scores given by the 21 people at our Eurovision party last night, Sweden won by a huge lead, and most of the voting public of the UK agreed I'd guess, given we gave them 12 points).

Edited at 2012-05-27 03:22 pm (UTC)
anghara13anghara13 on May 27th, 2012 06:11 pm (UTC)
To be honest, we just don't take it seriously enough and that's the problem. We've mocked and derided the competition for so many years now, relegated it to a competition for has-beens and wannabes, submitting second rate songs, and expecting support for our meagre efforts from countries that actually want to win this thing, and try really hard.

As for the political voting, well I can't remember a year when Greece and Cyprus haven't given each other 12 points, but there are more countries now which, although it does lend itself to neighbour support votes, is also perhaps going to make this less of an issue as these countries develop and their Intra-European relationships change. The quality of the song also affects the votes, especially now the voting is done by the viewers of the show rather than just a panel of supposed experts. Not sure I'd heard of any of our "panel" this year....