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06 January 2009 @ 05:58 pm
How Much Longer for LJ - and Don't Pay for your account.  
Russian Bear Bites Into LJ Staffing
 
 
 
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eulipious on January 6th, 2009 06:10 pm (UTC)
You'd kinda think that the folks behind Livejournal would give some notice if they thought something was majorly wrong?

Well, No. I wouldn't as I cast my mind back about eight years and remember a similar implosion concerning the then popular, initially free Open Diary. But that's a whole other saga.

Nice hat. Very reminiscent of Mary Quant. :-)
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eulipious on January 6th, 2009 06:21 pm (UTC)
Interesting and alternative way of handling the 'news'. I'm already reminiscing about LJ's early balmy days when the whole site was a lot tighter and generally much wittier and could only be joined by a special invite and code from a current member. All rather elitist [Though Free and no advertising] but general content seemed snappier and wittier. I've thought LJ a mite saggy with communities of late.
Dennydennyd on January 6th, 2009 06:16 pm (UTC)
You'd kinda think that the folks behind Livejournal would give some notice if they thought something was majorly wrong?

Companies which are going messily broke do not make this fact public until they have to. It would stop new customers signing up and delaying the company's death.

Not saying LJ is going broke (I have no idea), just pointing out that under some circumstances (not just those posited) they would be the last person you should expect to announce that there were problems.
eulipious on January 6th, 2009 06:22 pm (UTC)
I rather agree with you.
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eulipious on January 6th, 2009 06:23 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the link. It explains what seems to be going on rather succinctly.
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ijournalerijournaler on January 6th, 2009 06:21 pm (UTC)
Let's hope that lj customers don't go the same way as those European countries dependent on Russia for gas supplies!
eulipious on January 6th, 2009 06:27 pm (UTC)
I'm a bit behind with the news re that - what are they doing - pleading with Texas?
Allanalbowsmit on January 6th, 2009 06:54 pm (UTC)
I thought Iran was supplying Turkey. Not sure about Ukraine, mind you.

Russia is playing Superpower with their natural resources, but that's another rant for another day.
eulipious on January 6th, 2009 06:57 pm (UTC)
Ukraine was supplying a bit of France and other bits of Europe. I'm not at all surprised Russsia is playing Superpower. They miss the old days.
Allan: mmpralbowsmit on January 6th, 2009 07:20 pm (UTC)
List of countries effected:

Serbia
Italy
Austria
Slovakia
Bulgaria
Turkey
Macedonia
Greece
Croatia
Germany

All because Ukraine doesn't want to pay the bill for Russian gas at raised prices, which incidentally, is way less than we pay for the same gas even when you include the rise.

Edited at 2009-01-06 07:20 pm (UTC)
eulipious on January 6th, 2009 07:47 pm (UTC)
All because Ukraine doesn't want to pay the bill for Russian gas at raised prices, which incidentally, is way less than we pay for the same gas even when you include the rise.


Well, it's not exactly the same Gas is it. We don't get ours from Russia - yet. But I take your point though Ukraine is bound to act the upstart.
Allanalbowsmit on January 6th, 2009 07:57 pm (UTC)
2007 saw us import 16% of our gas from Russia. And that can only have gone up last year.
eulipious on January 6th, 2009 08:04 pm (UTC)
I've heard figures of 2%

Russian Gas Etc
Allanalbowsmit on January 6th, 2009 08:32 pm (UTC)
I genuinely doubt that the Government(EDIT)Deparment knows much about a privatised business sector. Much less one that was formed three months ago.

But then again, I quoted Daily Mail, so there's your two extremes.

Edited at 2009-01-06 08:38 pm (UTC)
eulipious on January 6th, 2009 10:40 pm (UTC)
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Oh dear. The Daily Mail. How does one react? . . .
Catpain Blackuddercharlycrash on January 6th, 2009 06:22 pm (UTC)
Man, what would we all do without LJ? We'd have to actually talk to friends and family and stuff.

A looooooot of people would complain, but given that apparently LJ have difficulty finding advertisers and LJ has 8 bajillion users, very large numbers of whom are very fond of the site, maybe getting more people to pay for accounts is the answer. Or perhaps stripping free accounts of a bunch of features, or something.

It's pretty pathetic how much of a fifth limb LJ is to me. It'd be pretty sad if it went down the toilet.
eulipious on January 6th, 2009 06:25 pm (UTC)
I'd never pay MORE for LJ. Compared to its early form it is definitely inferior despite all of its bells and whistles.
The Stainless Steel Rat: The Stainless Steel Rat (Green/Yellow)stainsteelrat on January 6th, 2009 06:39 pm (UTC)
I'd certainly contribute, although I already have a permanent account.
eulipious on January 6th, 2009 06:47 pm (UTC)
I have two permanent accounts paid for up to 2010 but I wouldn't pay another brass penny - especially if it meant dropping free accounts. I mean how much should one pay for vanity publishing?!
Allanalbowsmit on January 6th, 2009 06:55 pm (UTC)
How can permanent accounts be paid for up until a certain date? Perms are until LJ dies, or you do.
eulipious on January 6th, 2009 07:00 pm (UTC)
Sorry. My mistake I have two Paid Accounts. Perm accounts are for the elite. However I have forseen my death in 2010. . . . .
Catpain Blackuddercharlycrash on January 6th, 2009 07:18 pm (UTC)
Awesome, I'm l33t :D

I got gifted mine by some incredibly generous person, though.
eulipious on January 6th, 2009 07:44 pm (UTC)
Awesome, I'm l33t :D

133t ?
The Stainless Steel Rat: SSR The SSRstainsteelrat on January 6th, 2009 08:27 pm (UTC)
Ah, well don't forget it's not "vanity publishing" for everyone. For me it's mostly a diary with benefits, and I'd pay to keep the service, mostly because of the emotional attachment. The difficulty though is that I'd need to seem a cast iron guarantee of continuity of service, and I have no idea what shape that would need to take for me to be 100% certain!
eulipious on January 6th, 2009 10:47 pm (UTC)
For me it's mostly a diary with benefits, and I'd pay to keep the service, mostly because of the emotional attachment. The difficulty though is that I'd need to seem a cast iron guarantee of continuity of service, and I have no idea what shape that would need to take for me to be 100% certain!

OK I can see it can be used as a diary with benefits [and as such I have long cursed LJ for not making a clear page by page backup service available or a absolutely dead easy way to download a copy of a journal in one hit.

100% certainty concerning LJ has never been possible. First one became a member by invite from another LJ'er only 'something that won't change'. It did. Then it would always be free. It wasn't. Then 'we will never ever advertise.' Well they do - and more in the last few weeks. PopUps are appearing. I've seen all this before.
The Stainless Steel Rat: SSR Shootingstainsteelrat on January 8th, 2009 02:18 am (UTC)
Yep, there are certain key features, backup being the main one for me, that have been very obviously lacking from LJ. Perhaps the Russian owners will change that. Perhaps not.
Ayoub™ayoub on January 6th, 2009 08:09 pm (UTC)
Oh yes, save LJ by destroying its revenue stream...

I'm sorry, but telling people not to pay for their accounts is telling people to shoot themselves in the foot.
eulipious on January 6th, 2009 08:17 pm (UTC)
I haven't told anyone not to pay for their accounts but simply stated that I wouldn't pay any extra. To repeat myself 'What price Vanity Publishing?'
Ayoub™ayoub on January 6th, 2009 08:18 pm (UTC)
Sorry for the misunderstanding, but your subject line made me think that was what you meant :)
eulipious on January 6th, 2009 08:19 pm (UTC)
Always worth reading more than the subject line eh? ;-)
Ayoub™ayoub on January 6th, 2009 10:01 pm (UTC)
Indeed :P
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eulipious on January 6th, 2009 10:38 pm (UTC)
Re: Don't panic guys!
Fine. It reminds me of Woolworth's paying for everything in cash just before they went under officially.
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eulipious on January 8th, 2009 02:19 pm (UTC)
There's a whole lotta love gone into mine as I use it mostly as a diary, and would weep for a while should I loose it :(

It's always been a big bone of contention of mine that LJ, for all of its features, has never enabled quick and an easy downloading/backup facility.

It doesn't bother me personally as I haven't used LJ as a working journal for a long time but is sure as hell bothered me when I had my whole autobiography on an LJ and my only way of copying was a regular bout of copy & paste from raw LJ to Word.