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22 November 2010 @ 10:59 am
You Brits are missing out on a lot  
Not just in sport, but in the right to defend yourself, your home, and feel equal to the police and goverment.
You can't tell me you wouldn't enjoy and desire this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZolRC7J_dA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he64QzEWCTY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qsxf-uq-fk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D3AqwOanXI
 
 
 
Aarona_pawson on November 22nd, 2010 01:15 pm (UTC)
No we're not. Most people really don't want guns in our society. You are never going to understand that, but we don't want, need or have any desire to own guns.
Marksunnydays4me on November 22nd, 2010 02:00 pm (UTC)
Most people really don't want guns in our society

Perhaps so....but IMO those that want them deserve the right to have them to protect their families.

Make it a right, then those whom do NOT desire to invoke it need not, but protecting one's family is moreso a basic human right than a law.
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The tales of a dizzy blondealicephilippa on November 22nd, 2010 01:33 pm (UTC)
Even though, perhaps because of, I'm trained to use firearms[1] I don't think that firearms being owned by any Tom, Dick, or Harry is in any way desirable. It would make society less safe rather than safer.

[1] from hand guns through to light machine guns
Fortune depends on the tone of your voicebopeepsheep on November 22nd, 2010 02:00 pm (UTC)
Yes. I've held a FAC at various times since I was old enough - 20+ years - as my dad has been on-off Chair of a rifle [and formerly pistol] club my whole life, and I am not in favour of private citizen use or ownership of guns in any context other than farms and the heavily regulated shooting range.
Colette: gunbellinghwoman on November 22nd, 2010 01:34 pm (UTC)
I have corrected the wording on your user icon.
Marksunnydays4me on November 22nd, 2010 01:57 pm (UTC)
That was both innovative and somewhat cute.
The Despinazoepaleologa on November 22nd, 2010 01:53 pm (UTC)
Just go away. You're an idiot. Morons like you make the rest of us give thanks we aren't American.

Edited at 2010-11-22 04:55 pm (UTC)
Marksunnydays4me on November 22nd, 2010 01:57 pm (UTC)
lol
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ArchimedesUK: I reject your realityarchimedesuk on November 22nd, 2010 05:46 pm (UTC)
You will never be free if you need the power to kill to make yourself feel free; you are the prisoner of fear. If you want to be free set down your arms and let go of your fear.
Marksunnydays4me on November 22nd, 2010 07:13 pm (UTC)
If you want to be free set down your arms and let go of your fear.

Don't confuse fear with a declaration of exersizing my rights. And I'd rather be put in my grave than lay down my arms.
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Blue_Catblue_cat on November 22nd, 2010 06:43 pm (UTC)
in very broad brush
The real difference is that we have slightly more trust of our government that most American's do. America was built upon the ideology of people escaping from a government that ordered them to live based upon their rules imposed from above. The Brits are those who didn't try leave because they were more or less happy with the way things were.
Marksunnydays4me on November 22nd, 2010 07:08 pm (UTC)
Re: in very broad brush
No goverment can be trusted, the men who founded America knew this and thereof grew the Second Amendment to the Constitution.

The reality is that a goverment reflective of a democracy is a gift; a gratutity, because an unarmed people cannot resistice.
A good argument for that is in your own Parliment. English governence DOES provide for the people to bear their own arms from some 600 years ago, but it is simply ignored by todays Parliment resulting in an unarmed people.
Freedom inherited is a gift by the blood of your forebearers. You must stand ready to jealously guard that freedom for your own children...if necassary by bloodshed.
If it means less than that to you, them you are unworthy of it.
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Re: in very broad brush - sunnydays4me on November 22nd, 2010 07:39 pm (UTC) (Expand)
~ Lauren ~: SF: Not Amusedvicodin_martini on November 22nd, 2010 07:00 pm (UTC)
Are you saying you couldn't defend yourself without a gun? Sounds pretty weak to me.
Marksunnydays4me on November 22nd, 2010 07:10 pm (UTC)
Are you saying you couldn't defend yourself without a gun? Sounds pretty weak to me.

I cannot stand against armed Federal Agents. I cannot resiste goverment run amuck.

Can a woman or the elderly defend themselves without a firearm?
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MsWildthymeyuxonomei on November 22nd, 2010 07:15 pm (UTC)
Oh piss off and go and wash the beer stains out of your wifebeater.

I can defend myself very well without a gun, thank you very much.
Marksunnydays4me on November 22nd, 2010 09:42 pm (UTC)
Oh piss off and go and wash the beer stains out of your wifebeater.

Another new word. What is a "wifebeater" (other than a drunken slob who hits his wife)?
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