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14 January 2011 @ 10:03 pm
The attempted assination of House member Gabby Giffords, and the other 5 killed  
I must commend all of you Brits. I had thought that many of you would use this tragic event to leave comments on old posts about our Second Amendment, and our politics here in the USA. Then again you had your Columbria(sp?).
I guess there are going to be nutjobs everywhere, and that's just a reality of liing in a nation of hundreds of millions.

Anyone see the picture of the guy after he was arrested? He just killed five people and wounded about 10 including killing a 9 year old child, and he's grinning like a idiot...as if he has accomplished something he's proud of.

They better keep him in solitary for life, or until his appeals are up for the death penalty (probably the latter), because once other inmates find out he shot a woman...in the back, and murdered a child they will rip him from limb to limb.

Thank God against all odds our Congresswoman is amazingly well off considering.
fiat_knoxfiat_knox on January 15th, 2011 09:32 pm (UTC)
That trial might be depressingly brief, considering how publicly he threw his life away. Make sure he is never called "martyr" or that he did anything political. Just remember that he is being tried for a child's murder, before people start talking about "assassinations" and all of that flimflam.

Gods, honestly, I'm glad there are survivors, and I hope the Congresswoman's recovery is as swift as it is complete.
Marksunnydays4me on January 15th, 2011 11:16 pm (UTC)
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this monster will never be called anything other than a pyscopath and a child murderer. Not by anyone, even those who bear a grudge against goverment. That goes down in the book as one of the most cowardly, despicable acts in recent memory.

The man, Jared lougner was out of his mind obviously, he was seriously deranged.

There were huge, obvious failures that allowed this to take place too. Some more egregous than others.

*The college he attended kicked him out. Sherrifs deputys came to his home to present him papers from the college saying he could only return to school after a pysciatrist examined him.
*The Pima County Sherrifs Department had been forwarded several crazed letters Jared sent to Rep. Giffors office, threatening letters.
*The Sherrifs office was completly unaware that Rep. Giffords was going to be holding constituent services at the grocery store.
*Rep Giffords had not even one armed security guard or person to protect her, had she they would have made this lunatic out from the get go.
*All of these factors combined to allow the atmosphere for jared to go for the assisnation and murder of innocent people. There was at least one man present carrying a gun, but by the time he could get over there to react Jared was already on the ground, tackled by citizens.

This is nothing more or less than a very, very sad day in America. We pray for both those who survived and those who did not, and we pray to give strength to Rep. Giffords. She is a good woman and faithful servant of the people who deserved none of this.

A martyr of evil and deragement who will soon have a big penis being forced into his cheeks in prison, this man is a hero only to himself...a monster and child murderer. I can see the evil in his face.
fiat_knoxfiat_knox on January 15th, 2011 11:22 pm (UTC)
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I can see the evil in his face
Looks more like stupidity to me. Yeah, definitely sub-average intelligence. The mark of a keenly-felt feeble mind. Fully responsible, naturally, and fully aware of his actions, but still very low on the IQ scale, like someone who could have chosen to be smarter at some point and decided not to be.
Marksunnydays4me on January 15th, 2011 11:33 pm (UTC)
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I've no doubt his intelligence is sub-par. But, he knew what he was doing...stupidity is no excuse for murder. Law enforcement found noted at his home in the safe saying "I finally decided to just go ahead and do it, don't hate me. signed, jared loughner.

For what it's worth his father was a family abuser and a drunk. Perhaps it's genetic. I do tend to agree there is something about his eyes...his face, a stupidity yet still with the basic intelligence to get lucky and take advantage of all the security and law enforcement lapses, and try to kill rep. giffords.

The other people he shot (he shot rep Giffords in the back of the head FIRST) were just for "kicks" including the little 9 year old girl. I'm very surprised those that tackled him did not shoot him or beat him to death.
Aarona_pawson on January 16th, 2011 12:25 am (UTC)
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Don't you find it worrying that a) someone with a history of psychological problems was able to own a gun and b) that you think politicians should have security at all times?
Marksunnydays4me on January 16th, 2011 12:59 am (UTC)
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I do think that politicians should have security (and wear bulletproof vests) at all times.

His mental illness and ability to get a gun was a failure as I stated. The college had police come to his house and read a letter banning him from classes until he had a mental evaluation.
The police had several threatenin letters the killer had sent to MS Giffords, but NOONE EVER took the time to fill out aa paper and make him have a mental evaluation. THAT IS AND WAS THE PROBLEM IN A NUTSHELL AND THE POLICE BEAR THE FAULT FOR IGNORING EVERYTHING AND NOT PROVIDING SECURITY FOR MS GIFFORDS.
His history of pysciatric problems was never documented because the police chose to ignore the threats he made against her and ignore the colleges demands for a mental evaluation before he could return, everyone was afraid of him.
This was, on every level, the fault of Pima County Police.
Marksunnydays4me on January 16th, 2011 07:14 pm (UTC)
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Don't you find it worrying that a) someone with a history of psychological problems was able to own a gun

PS: I find the alternative of tens of millions of law abiding, freedom loving Americans losing their rights unacceptable.

Before we do that I'd advocate a round the clock security professional for every member of congress, and it may come to that. freedom is NEVER free.